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Interviews with Bartgrinn

No Need for Religion
‘They have things in their daily lives that could explain more to them than what the priest does on a Sunday. They just can’t see it.’

Of the Original People
‘There is a big difference between ‘holy’ and sacred. The Earth is sacred, not holy… We worked with the support of Nature. And we respected Nature for giving us medicines.’

There is No YOLO
‘At some point they don’t come back, because the universe can’t use them. They’re useless, because they don’t grow energy.’